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		<title>Comment on The ethics of re-writing someone&#8217;s personal story by newswithnipples</title>
		<link>http://newswithnipples.com/2013/05/14/the-ethics-of-re-writing-someones-personal-story/#comment-15922</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 01:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An argument between two people in a newsroom is news? Puh-lease. You are so right. It&#039;s about undermining her. And it&#039;s disgusting and completely unfair that another journalist will grant anonymity to people who want to say nasty things about Adamson without consequence. Who are those people? Were they overlooked for the exec editor role and are now trying to get rid of her? Did Adamson pull them up for poor performance, so they&#039;re having a go at her now? When did journalists stop asking questions about people&#039;s motives? Or maybe they never did.

All of those things that she&#039;s described as - &lt;em&gt;&quot;Staffers commend her skills and her experience but question whether she has the temperament to lead the paper. At times, they say, her attitude toward editors and reporters leaves everyone feeling demoralized; on other occasions, she can seem disengaged or uncaring.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; - can be used to describe most male editors I&#039;ve worked for, and no one complains about that. It&#039;s a one-sided smear article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An argument between two people in a newsroom is news? Puh-lease. You are so right. It&#8217;s about undermining her. And it&#8217;s disgusting and completely unfair that another journalist will grant anonymity to people who want to say nasty things about Adamson without consequence. Who are those people? Were they overlooked for the exec editor role and are now trying to get rid of her? Did Adamson pull them up for poor performance, so they&#8217;re having a go at her now? When did journalists stop asking questions about people&#8217;s motives? Or maybe they never did.</p>
<p>All of those things that she&#8217;s described as &#8211; <em>&#8220;Staffers commend her skills and her experience but question whether she has the temperament to lead the paper. At times, they say, her attitude toward editors and reporters leaves everyone feeling demoralized; on other occasions, she can seem disengaged or uncaring.&#8221;</em> &#8211; can be used to describe most male editors I&#8217;ve worked for, and no one complains about that. It&#8217;s a one-sided smear article.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The ethics of re-writing someone&#8217;s personal story by kindredspirit23</title>
		<link>http://newswithnipples.com/2013/05/14/the-ethics-of-re-writing-someones-personal-story/#comment-15917</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 15:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t mind rewrites at all when they do a couple of things:
1) as you say, reference and link back to the original
2) be very accurate
3) follow 1 and 2 very well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind rewrites at all when they do a couple of things:<br />
1) as you say, reference and link back to the original<br />
2) be very accurate<br />
3) follow 1 and 2 very well.<br />
Scott</p>
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		<title>Comment on The ethics of re-writing someone&#8217;s personal story by Orlando</title>
		<link>http://newswithnipples.com/2013/05/14/the-ethics-of-re-writing-someones-personal-story/#comment-15914</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orlando]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 06:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It makes this article from Politico look even more ridiculous: completely ordinary behaviour for a newsroom, but because it&#039;s a woman it&#039;s Drama! Conflict! Failure!
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/new-york-times-turbulence-90544.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes this article from Politico look even more ridiculous: completely ordinary behaviour for a newsroom, but because it&#8217;s a woman it&#8217;s Drama! Conflict! Failure!<br />
<a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/new-york-times-turbulence-90544.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/new-york-times-turbulence-90544.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The ethics of re-writing someone&#8217;s personal story by newswithnipples</title>
		<link>http://newswithnipples.com/2013/05/14/the-ethics-of-re-writing-someones-personal-story/#comment-15905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[newswithnipples]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 05:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes to all of those things. Some parts of the job are great, and I&#039;ve worked for some great people. Ok, only a few, but that counts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes to all of those things. Some parts of the job are great, and I&#8217;ve worked for some great people. Ok, only a few, but that counts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The ethics of re-writing someone&#8217;s personal story by jemthegreat</title>
		<link>http://newswithnipples.com/2013/05/14/the-ethics-of-re-writing-someones-personal-story/#comment-15904</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jemthegreat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 05:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Abuse and unprincipled bullshit. Harassing bereaved people, downplaying stuff cause of advertiser dollars, treating horrible violent tragedy as &quot;a wonderful opportunity to gather more web hits&quot; (actual quote) ... blergh. I think lots of people leave so they can sleep better at night too. Unfortunately that just ups the dickhead ratio ;) Anyway, /rant. It&#039;s not all bad but the stuff that is leaves a lasting impression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abuse and unprincipled bullshit. Harassing bereaved people, downplaying stuff cause of advertiser dollars, treating horrible violent tragedy as &#8220;a wonderful opportunity to gather more web hits&#8221; (actual quote) &#8230; blergh. I think lots of people leave so they can sleep better at night too. Unfortunately that just ups the dickhead ratio <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Anyway, /rant. It&#8217;s not all bad but the stuff that is leaves a lasting impression.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The ethics of re-writing someone&#8217;s personal story by newswithnipples</title>
		<link>http://newswithnipples.com/2013/05/14/the-ethics-of-re-writing-someones-personal-story/#comment-15903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[newswithnipples]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh my god yes! Non-journo friends were always amazed/shocked by what&#039;s considered normal in a newsroom. Editors calling people &quot;fucking idiots&quot; and rolling their eyes when you speak, and yelling at people in front of everyone. Then you get into a normal workplace and people are professional.

I hate the comment that people who leave the industry do so because &quot;they can&#039;t hack it&quot;. Such bullshit. Lots of people - myself included and by the sounds of it, you as well - leave because they realise they don&#039;t need to put up with abuse just to earn a living.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god yes! Non-journo friends were always amazed/shocked by what&#8217;s considered normal in a newsroom. Editors calling people &#8220;fucking idiots&#8221; and rolling their eyes when you speak, and yelling at people in front of everyone. Then you get into a normal workplace and people are professional.</p>
<p>I hate the comment that people who leave the industry do so because &#8220;they can&#8217;t hack it&#8221;. Such bullshit. Lots of people &#8211; myself included and by the sounds of it, you as well &#8211; leave because they realise they don&#8217;t need to put up with abuse just to earn a living.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The ethics of re-writing someone&#8217;s personal story by jemthegreat</title>
		<link>http://newswithnipples.com/2013/05/14/the-ethics-of-re-writing-someones-personal-story/#comment-15902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jemthegreat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 01:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah good point. I&#039;ll bet there were lots of others that thought the same as you, but standing up to the dickheads generally isn&#039;t common (because hey, they&#039;re bullies - and rocking the boat often has consequences). Only the majority of journos working with integrity in this area will get things to change overall.

(As an aside ... it&#039;s like the industry magically attracts dickheads somehow, isn&#039;t it! Once you get out it&#039;s so wonderful to remember that the ratio of nice, normal people to knobs out in the real world is actually pretty good).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah good point. I&#8217;ll bet there were lots of others that thought the same as you, but standing up to the dickheads generally isn&#8217;t common (because hey, they&#8217;re bullies &#8211; and rocking the boat often has consequences). Only the majority of journos working with integrity in this area will get things to change overall.</p>
<p>(As an aside &#8230; it&#8217;s like the industry magically attracts dickheads somehow, isn&#8217;t it! Once you get out it&#8217;s so wonderful to remember that the ratio of nice, normal people to knobs out in the real world is actually pretty good).</p>
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		<title>Comment on The ethics of re-writing someone&#8217;s personal story by newswithnipples</title>
		<link>http://newswithnipples.com/2013/05/14/the-ethics-of-re-writing-someones-personal-story/#comment-15901</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[newswithnipples]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 23:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t worry, I&#039;ve done all those things as well. When I brought up the problems with the practice, I was shat on. Little wonder my career as a journalist wasn&#039;t very successful. (I also have a big problem working for dickheads - I can&#039;t even &lt;em&gt;pretend&lt;/em&gt; to respect them - which is the real reason I never got far. Because my word, I worked for A LOT of dickheads.)

A news organisation isn&#039;t going to make a big deal about it because that means they won&#039;t be able to do it either. I&#039;d just like to see journalists stop and think about their work practices, rather than just assuming that they&#039;re doin&#039; it right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, I&#8217;ve done all those things as well. When I brought up the problems with the practice, I was shat on. Little wonder my career as a journalist wasn&#8217;t very successful. (I also have a big problem working for dickheads &#8211; I can&#8217;t even <em>pretend</em> to respect them &#8211; which is the real reason I never got far. Because my word, I worked for A LOT of dickheads.)</p>
<p>A news organisation isn&#8217;t going to make a big deal about it because that means they won&#8217;t be able to do it either. I&#8217;d just like to see journalists stop and think about their work practices, rather than just assuming that they&#8217;re doin&#8217; it right.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The ethics of re-writing someone&#8217;s personal story by jemthegreat</title>
		<link>http://newswithnipples.com/2013/05/14/the-ethics-of-re-writing-someones-personal-story/#comment-15896</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jemthegreat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 22:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s totally unethical, but certainly not uncommon. 

When I was starting out and had one of my first jobs writing journalism pieces (which were admittedly fluffy celeb-type stuff) I was instructed to re-write existing articles to the extent that nobody could &#039;prove&#039; they were copied from the original, SEO them and hit publish. We would have got chewed out by the higher-ups for adding a link to the source (seeing as it might send people away from the site). The only time we added source links was when the source was one of the company&#039;s other websites! (I&#039;m cringing pretty bad right now - yes, I&#039;ve done things I&#039;m not proud of in my youth to pay the bills, amazing what a jobs crisis can do to personal integrity!)

I think the only thing that would stop this happening is a few major publications getting burned for plagiarism. But then, it&#039;s tough to prove. As the people doing it know very well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s totally unethical, but certainly not uncommon. </p>
<p>When I was starting out and had one of my first jobs writing journalism pieces (which were admittedly fluffy celeb-type stuff) I was instructed to re-write existing articles to the extent that nobody could &#8216;prove&#8217; they were copied from the original, SEO them and hit publish. We would have got chewed out by the higher-ups for adding a link to the source (seeing as it might send people away from the site). The only time we added source links was when the source was one of the company&#8217;s other websites! (I&#8217;m cringing pretty bad right now &#8211; yes, I&#8217;ve done things I&#8217;m not proud of in my youth to pay the bills, amazing what a jobs crisis can do to personal integrity!)</p>
<p>I think the only thing that would stop this happening is a few major publications getting burned for plagiarism. But then, it&#8217;s tough to prove. As the people doing it know very well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The ethics of re-writing someone&#8217;s personal story by newswithnipples</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[newswithnipples]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 08:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed. I really do think re-writes have a place, as long as the focus is on pointing the reader to the original. And keeping the re-write short, so there IS a reason to go to the original.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. I really do think re-writes have a place, as long as the focus is on pointing the reader to the original. And keeping the re-write short, so there IS a reason to go to the original.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The ethics of re-writing someone&#8217;s personal story by krjourno</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[krjourno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 02:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re-write...plagiarism... Seems a fine line some days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-write&#8230;plagiarism&#8230; Seems a fine line some days.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[On speaking as a woman &#124; can be bitter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 13:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on What do I do now? by newswithnipples</title>
		<link>http://newswithnipples.com/2013/04/30/what-do-i-do-now/#comment-15860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[newswithnipples]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 09:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll definitely see you on the twits!

You know, the pomodoro doesn&#039;t work for me when I&#039;m doing academic writing. Fiction, yes, but there&#039;s something about it that puts me on edge when I&#039;m doing academic stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll definitely see you on the twits!</p>
<p>You know, the pomodoro doesn&#8217;t work for me when I&#8217;m doing academic writing. Fiction, yes, but there&#8217;s something about it that puts me on edge when I&#8217;m doing academic stuff.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What do I do now? by newswithnipples</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[newswithnipples]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 09:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is all excellent advice. Thanks M-H. (When I look at my output over the last three years, I should have been working full time, instead of part time.

Congratulations, by the way. How does it feel?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all excellent advice. Thanks M-H. (When I look at my output over the last three years, I should have been working full time, instead of part time.</p>
<p>Congratulations, by the way. How does it feel?</p>
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		<title>Comment on What do I do now? by megan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[megan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 07:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listen to Mary-Helen, she knows stuff. I&#039;ve been doing my phd since 2009, upgraded from a MEd in 2009. Looks like we will are on a similar #phd time line ;). Pat Thomson and Barbara Kamler write about forming a phd identity, you might think you have done naught but actually you have done the stuff of it. 

Pomodoros are 25 minutes (some pomodorians do 45 min) of writing, or associated activities (i like coding) interspersed with 5 min of doing something else (put the washing on, make a tea etc) then back to it... There&#039;s an app if you have a smart phone, but a kitchen timer is just as good. 

The Pomodorians do call outs with #suaw hashtag, and some days we even do massed virtual pomodoroian fiestas... that include do the washing and the dishes during the breaks (personally I like creative interpretative  dance as my pomodorian breaks). Other hash tags to find phd tweeps and writters include #ecrchat #phdchat #acwri

I&#039;m usually around on Sun, Mon and usually one other day during the week (Thurs or Friday), tweet if you want to join in. 
See you on the twits!
megan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen to Mary-Helen, she knows stuff. I&#8217;ve been doing my phd since 2009, upgraded from a MEd in 2009. Looks like we will are on a similar #phd time line <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Pat Thomson and Barbara Kamler write about forming a phd identity, you might think you have done naught but actually you have done the stuff of it. </p>
<p>Pomodoros are 25 minutes (some pomodorians do 45 min) of writing, or associated activities (i like coding) interspersed with 5 min of doing something else (put the washing on, make a tea etc) then back to it&#8230; There&#8217;s an app if you have a smart phone, but a kitchen timer is just as good. </p>
<p>The Pomodorians do call outs with #suaw hashtag, and some days we even do massed virtual pomodoroian fiestas&#8230; that include do the washing and the dishes during the breaks (personally I like creative interpretative  dance as my pomodorian breaks). Other hash tags to find phd tweeps and writters include #ecrchat #phdchat #acwri</p>
<p>I&#8217;m usually around on Sun, Mon and usually one other day during the week (Thurs or Friday), tweet if you want to join in.<br />
See you on the twits!<br />
megan</p>
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